Tuesday, September 9, 2008

looking in the bible

i started to do some research related to the gay counseling and conversion in my bible, just because i was curious.  i know that there are versus in the bible that reference it.  true enough in romans 1:26-27 paul did talk about some people having done wrong.  of all the things i think of this, #1, the context and #2 the fact that paul wrote it to explain his faith.  i was struck that in romans 2:1-3 it says:  "if you think you can judge others, you are wrong.  when you judge them, you are really judging yourself guilty, because you do the same things they do.  God judges those who do wrong things, and we know that his judging is right.  you judge those who do wrong, but you do wrong yourselves.  do you think you will be able to escape the judgement of god?"  then in 2:11 "for god judges all people in the same way."  

i just thought it was interesting this was right below the quote in 1:26.  also i looked up on the internet that he was probably talking about a group that were practicing pagan rituals, since right before in verses 18-26 it said they had known god but made idols and worshiped them, then god left them.

flipping around i landed on 1 timothy 2.  some rules for men and women.  it instructs people to pray for rulers and those who have authority (so sarah palin is right on track actually with this).  then in 2:9-15, "Also, women should wear proper clothes that show respect and self-control, not using braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes.  instead, they should do good deeds, which is right for women who say they worship god.  let a woman learn by listening quietly and being ready to cooperate in everything.  but i do not allow  woman to teach or have authority over a man, but to listen quietly, because adam was formed first hen eve. and adam was not tricked, but the woman was tricked and became a sinner.  but she will be save through having children if they continue in faith, love and holiness, with self-control."

so if you believe implicitly in everything the bible says to be truth, than a woman really can't be vice president than, right?  or have expensive clothes.  or wear jewelry.  hmmm. . . interesting.  

(i only have a youth bible, so it's translated into even easier more heavily translated version, so who knows how far off it is from what was really written before this game of telephone was put in a book.)

1 comment:

The Tree Hugger and The Musician said...

Moses is the one who advised his followers that you cannot sleep with the same sex or for the matter, since in the Old Testament there is a lot of incest, also advised you cannot sleep with your family members. I just had this conversation with my Mother this weekend. She has read the bible fully, studies the Quran, something else, and is interested in studying Wicca.